2024-06-12 - Steven Greenstreet "Pentagon UFO Hunter Says Alien "Religion" Has Infiltrated US Government"

Transcript:

Sean Kirkpatrick (00:00):

What's in the airspace? Is it dangerous? Is it hostile? Is it an adversary or is it something else?

What is that? How are we going to get our arms grounded? What are we going to do about it? Because the pilots were concerned, there are real safety and security issues.

Steven Greenstreet (00:28):

This is part two of my interview with Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the former head of the Pentagon's UFO office called the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office or Arrow. Part one is linked. In the description below, Congress created arrow to investigate claims of aliens and UFOs that have captured news headlines for the last six years. For 18 months, under Kirkpatrick's leadership, arrow looked for the aliens. They said they had top secret access to everything and looked everywhere, and they found nothing. No aliens, no space, monsters, nothing. Instead, they found a core group of UFO believers who have spent years pushing false and unfounded paranormal stories. This core group helped create and promote a factually inaccurate New York Times story about UFOs. This one New York Times story and its false information was copy pasted hundreds of times by the mainstream news media who went on to print even more baseless UFO stories promoted by this group.

(01:36):

Kirkpatrick says, there's also UFO true believers who continue to hold positions of authority within the US military. Kirkpatrick refers to these UFO true believers as religious in nature, a sort of UFO religion. Kirkpatrick says he and his family have been threatened with violence by some of these true believers who are convinced Kirkpatrick is covering up the aliens. Kirkpatrick believes these true believers present a potential threat to national security because they're making crucial decisions, not based on data or evidence, but instead on fervent religious conviction. How can we then trust them with our national secrets? Kirkpatrick asks, it's a very good question, but my confusion is why it took so long to ask it. The Arrow report is very detailed, specific, and conclusive, but it's 2024. This all started in 2017, this current phase of things, and it's been a nonstop UFO and Alien Fest since for six years. So how the heck did this get so out of hand? How was it allowed to go on for so long? Why didn't the Pentagon just shut all this nonsense down six years ago?

Sean Kirkpatrick (03:00):

Well, those are all great questions. I don't have answers for them other than Congress wrote a lot of it into law and told the department and the IC to go do, and so they have to the best of their ability. So I think what you're seeing is the executive branch in particular, the Pentagon and the IC are very much trying to address Congress's concerns. Congress is continuing to beat this drum despite evidence to the contrary.

Steven Greenstreet (03:38):

Kirkpatrick is saying essentially that AARO represented the first time Congress actually mandated these specific questions be asked. Kirkpatrick and AARO answered those questions in their report, but Congress seems to have mostly ignored the report they themselves asked for and instead continue their hunt for alien UFOs despite evidence to the contrary, Congress's interest in this is a domino effect. The New York Times article comes out, domino falls worldwide news copy paste the New York Times story, domino Falls, Congress goes, what the hell is going on? And they still, to this day, Congress still thinks the basic facts of that New York Times story is accurate. They're still operating off of the original claims, the original story. So this domino effect has been going on. The AARO Report in many ways stops the domino fall. But my question, you can give me just your opinion, what's taken so long?

Sean Kirkpatrick (04:43):

Well, okay, so let's back up just so there are two different things happening here that I think we're talking about. So the New York Times article covered a lot of the stories from pilots, right? Pilots concerning things that they're seeing as they're flying around. So that all falls under the operational mission of a right. There are real safety and security issues that Aero is trying to address that the department is trying to address of, Hey, what's in the airspace? Is it dangerous? Is it hostile? Is it an adversary or is it just something that could cause an accident in air? What is that? How are we going to get our arms around it? What are we going to do about it? Because the pilots were concerned, and they had valid concerns about that. The historical piece of this where wrapped in the allegations of government coverup and conspiracy are the things that are mostly unfounded and are woven into the same narrative as what the pilots are seeing. And these are not the same things. These aren't even close to the same things.

Steven Greenstreet (06:06):

Kirkpatrick brings up a good point. While there aren't any aliens in our skies, something obviously is when the military upgraded their radar systems. In recent years, they suddenly saw a bunch of new stuff, stuff they couldn't see before on their older radar platforms. This seems to have led to the surprise and at times confusion of pilots who asked, what the heck is all this stuff? Well, a lot of that stuff has since been determined to be mundane. Things like balloons from party balloons to weather balloons. Kirkpatrick told CNN's Peter Bergen balloons are one of the biggest hazards right now, and it's growing. There's something like 10,000 balloons launched daily. There's also been a massive increase of drones in the air. The FAA says, drones are the fastest growing segment of aviation in the United States, and millions of them have been sold to the public. Since drones are still in emerging technology laws to enforce drone safety are sometimes lagging behind.

(07:18):

As such, military and commercial air pilots are encountering both balloons and drones in the air and such encounters present a real danger for mid-air collisions. Another documented fact is that some of these objects are foreign adversaries like China or Russia, spying on America with drones and balloons. The infamous Chinese spy balloon is the most obvious example of this, but there are many, many other cases. The public is mostly unaware of this, and I will be producing a deeper investigation into this aspect in the near future. But for now, it seems that fake stories about aliens have distracted us from fully addressing a very real problem. I think the problem was is that that real problem initially was branded under the umbrella of paranormal of aliens, and so people were looking this way instead of looking that way.

Sean Kirkpatrick (08:23):

That's correct, and that's an important distinction. You need to make sure it is clear with your readers of, look, these are two separate things and why people make that leap of, Hey, I don't understand what I'm seeing, therefore it must be an alien. There's a whole range of other possibilities between I don't understand what I'm seeing and it's an alien. There's all kinds of other stuff that happens in there, right? Why people make that jump. I don't know. It's a very interesting psychological study and PhD thesis for somebody, but it's not our job. Our job was to try to decouple the two

Text Quotes:

Sean Kirkpatrick on Skinwalker Branch briefing to HASC staffers:

In 2018, I was stationed in Colorado.

I couldn't tell you when it happened... Maybe late 2017, maybe early 2018.

That is a blatant lie and mischaracterization from Fugal. I neither led the meeting nor ever said UFO Phenomena was real. Period.

The meeting was called and led by Kirk McConnell. I was invited by McConnell to listen and give him my opinion. I gave my unfavorable impression and assessment of the briefing to the SASC staffers and moved on, never giving it another thought until now.

I did not know it was about Skinwalker Ranch until later. I don't recall it being referenced by that name during the briefing. 

It did not leave a favorable impression and I didn't give it another thought.

I don't recall meeting Fugal, and couldn't pick him out if I had too, which means he didn't leave much of an impression, and neither did the briefing.

Other than attending one briefing at the request of the SASC, in an unofficial capacity, I had no official duties regarding UFOs.